Appellate judges sceptical of New York Trump fraud case

New York [US], September 27: Appeals court judges have signalled scepticism toward a civil fraud case brought by New York state against Donald Trump as the former president asked them to toss a nearly half-billion dollar judgment against him over real estate business practices that a judge declared fraudulent.
Justice Arthur Engoron in February ordered Trump, the Republican candidate in the November 5 US presidential election, to pay $US454.2 million ($A658.8 million) in penalties and interest for inflating his net worth to dupe lenders and insurers into giving him better terms.
The civil case was brought by New York state Attorney General Letitia James.
Members of the five-judge panel on the Appellate Division - the mid-level state appellate court hearing arguments in Trump's appeal - appeared concerned about possible overreach by James.
They asked what constraints applied to the law James cited in bringing the case - one that is typically used to go after fraudsters who target vulnerable consumers.
"How do we draw a line or at least put up guardrails?," Justice Peter Moulton asked.
Deputy Solicitor General Judith Vale, arguing for the state, said the statute - known as Executive Law 63(12) - is broadly aimed at stopping fraud and illegality, and was therefore appropriate in Trump's case.
Justice David Friedman pressed Vale on whether there was any precedent for the attorney general suing over transactions involving sophisticated parties where neither "lost any money".
"Every case that you cite involves damage to consumers, damage to the marketplace . We don't have anything like that here," Friedman said.
Moulton also questioned if James' office was engaging in "mission creep" and whether the law she sued Trump under had "morphed into something that it was not meant to do".
Later, Moulton questioned Vale about Engoron's hefty punishment, observing that "the immense penalty in this case is troubling".
The case stemmed from Trump's leadership of his family real estate company, the Trump Organization, before he became president in 2017.
Trump's lawyer John Sauer told the judges that the case was brought too late and that it would be unfair to impose a "crippling financial penalty" for the former president's decades-old financial statements, which Engoron found were illegally inflated.
"This case involves a clear-cut violation of the statute of limitations and relevant case law," Sauer said.
Sauer also said that trial testimony showed that any discrepancies in Trump's net worth were irrelevant to his lenders.
"What is not disputed is the testimony that if the net worth had been as low as one million (dollars), the deal would've been exactly the same," Sauer said.
Sauer added that none of Trump's lenders and business partners were harmed by the discrepancies on the financial statements, an argument Trump's lawyers have made throughout the case.
"There were no victims, no complaints," Sauer said.
Two of the judges interrupted Vale's opening statement to ask if there were any other examples of the state suing over private business transactions between sophisticated parties under a law aimed at protecting market integrity.
"When risk is injected into the market, that does hurt the counterparties and it does hurt the market as a whole," Vale replied.
Engoron's ruling poses a threat to the business empire Trump has built over decades, which includes hotels, office buildings and golf courses around the world.
With interest continuing to accrue, Trump now owes $US478.3 million.
In a brief submitted in July to the Appellate Division, Trump's lawyers said that the financial statements he submitted to banks actually understated his wealth, and there was no indication that any of the lenders suffered losses.
The lawyers also accused James, a Democrat, of targeting a political adversary.
In September 2023, before a three-month trial with no jury, Engoron found Trump liable for lying about his asset values and net worth for a decade.
The judge took particular issue with Trump's claim that his Manhattan penthouse apartment was 2787 square metres, nearly three times its real size.
The trial focused solely on penalties.
In addition to the financial penalties, Engoron banned Trump from serving in a top role at any New York company, or seeking loans from banks registered in the state, for three years.
Trump in April averted possible asset seizures in the case by posting a $US175 million bond while he appeals.
Source: Fijian Broadcasting Corporation